My Reply to John Daresh and NLA — Round One

by Anna Von Reitz

And the following is my response to “NLA” —or rather, to John Daresh, who finally, after months of silence, decided to say SOMETHING to me….. His comments are clearly indicated, followed by mine:
The following is a response to the “Me and the NLA by Anna Von Reitz” posted at on February 16, 2016. I will not reprint the post, readers can go to the posted page and read for themselves the claims. I will respond to each assault by bullet points. If you want to understand Anna Von Reitz’s unique perspective, and why NLA distanced itself from her ideologies, please read the additional postings on her site;,
Anna has never contacted me or any of the National Leadership on the phone. Therefore, no such opportunity to hang up on her was afforded. Although we have need to chastise a national NLA leader from time to time for rudeness, it has over time become extremely rare. All of NLA leadership is instructed to be polite and, cordial and although NLA holds to the commandment of repentance and forgiveness[5], if one of our leaders are unable to control themselves we will rank them down, and out of the public eye, that’s our policy.
I have called the National Headquarters and talked with people at least twice, including Gary Jolly. I believe I have the phone records to prove it. I definitely have the mailing receipts of contacts I have made, including the mailing that delivered the wet-ink, hand-signed, thumb-printed, and sealed affidavit of probable cause which has since been published as “You Know Something Is Wrong When…..An American Affidavit of Probable Cause” available to all on Amazon. com. Those who have read this affidavit will agree that it has been mammothly researched and honestly attested to, and I trust that I am not alone in being mystified as to why any American Common Law Grand Jury would FAIL to investigate a properly executed affidavit of probable cause alleging grand felony fraud, press-ganging, kidnapping, inland piracy and other crimes against the American people and our lawful government.
I spoke with Gary Jolly and he confirmed the only contact he had with Anna was by e-mail and in that email he requested to be removed from her mailing list.
If there is a judge or justice in a common law court, it’s not a common law court. It is true that the proper name for our elected or appointed Jurist is Justice, it is also true that all Justices when sitting in a common law court hold the status of Magistrate to keep the case orderly and on point.
This is splitting fine hairs to no real purpose. The actual proper title for a Common Law Judge is “Justice of the Peace”, just as the proper title of a Sheriff on the land is “Peacekeeping Officer”— but that is neither here nor there. In actual practice, Sheriffs do their duties as Sheriffs and Justices of the Peace function as Judges, whether Magistrates or Superior Court Justices aka “Judges”.
The District Attorney’s job is to prosecute in the practice of law, but they have no decision making authorities concerning cases, nor do they have the authority to make a deal after the Common Law Grand Jury indicts, the Common Law will not tolerate that.
Gee, well, then why is it that we have not seen ANY successful prosecutions actually bearing fruit if the DA is not exercising his “prosecutorial discretion” and ignoring the Common Law Grand Jury presentments?
It has been at least two years. I see no movement. No action. No successful prosecutions of the many, many, many CRIMES that the the American people have suffered in the same time period— and there must be an explanation for this that I am not seeing here. We have no dearth of crime and yet no prosecution.
It looks to me like either (1) the Common Law Grand Juries have no teeth for precisely the reasons I stipulated in my article “The NLA and Me” or (2) despite the supposed intolerance of the Common Law Grand Juries for being ignored by the DA— they are in fact being ignored and accomplishing little or nothing beyond spinning their wheels. Prove me wrong, John Daresh. Please publish the list of presentments that the Common Law Grand Juries have issued and a list of those cases that have been or are being prosecuted as a result?
The Common Law Grand Jury acts independently from the prosecutor and papers are filed directly with the clerk.
All cases are filed directly with the Clerk, so that’s not enlightening. What we are interested in is lack of prosecution of serious crime. The job of a Common Law Grand Jury is to investigate crime either on its own initiative or upon being presented with an “information”—- which I certainly provided.
National Liberty Alliance was founded about three years ago and developed a realistic and lawful plan to save our Republic. Within that time period NLA has been successful in organizing the Nation and educating The People in Law, American History and Ethics, which was is a prerequisite necessity for accomplishing our goal to duly serve as the Unified United States Common Law Grand Jurists and Administrators.
In the Common Law System the courts are supported and created by Jural Societies at both the County and State level and Jural Societies are created by those who have claimed their proper political status and signed a Jural Oath. Since most of the people on this Continent have been mischaracterized and removed from the land jurisdiction and are considered “civilly dead” with respect to their birthright political status, they have no ability to form lawful Jural Societies nor can they operate the lawful courts owed to the Republic. It would be analogous to Spaniards pretending to be Irishmen and proposing to operate Irish courts.
I have brought this to the attention of NLA to no avail. Nobody I know who has been involved in the NLA effort has gone through the process to re-establish their birthright political status and reconvey their name and estate to the land jurisdiction of the United States. Nobody in NLA that I have talked to has registered any understanding of Jural Societies. Nobody has shown any flicker of understanding when I asked to see their Jural Oath.
This indicates either ignorance on the part of the NLA leadership or purposeful fraud against the institution and process. I would prefer to think they simply don’t know what they are doing and I would be happy to help, but instead of evincing any willingness to learn anything, the policy of the NLA leadership— similar to the policy of the current “administrators” of the governmental services corporations pretending to be our lawful government—is to ignore valid information to their detriment and dishonor.
We accomplished that goal by first reconstituting the “Common Law Grand Jury” in all 3133 counties by filing press releases within the counties inviting the People to gather and be introduced to the Common Law Grand Jury and give their vote of approval and the response across the Nation was overwhelmingly positive, averaging a 98% approval rating.
While people may have responded in some manner positive to the initiative it is a pure and honest fact that only a handful of those 3133 counties actually followed through by taking any action whatsoever to do the work involved and of those that did, owing to lack of proper instruction, it appears that NOBODY involved in the NLA effort: (1) reclaimed their proper political status and (2) formed a Jural Society and (3) signed a Jural Oath, so that for all their good intentions and hard work, not a thing they could do could be considered a valid Common Law action.
In order to rightfully establish a Unified United States Common Law Grand Jury we first established fifty Unified States’ Common Law Grand Juries as we continue to organize leadership in all 3134 counties. Each State possesses their-own Seal and mailing address. We then organized leadership in all Federal Districts in order to provide for federal administrations and provide for the monitoring of maintaining of the Principles of the King[6] of the court.
Again, these organizations, both at the county level and state level may exist on paper, but the evidence that they exist in fact, that they have been properly organized and documented,and that they are popularly understood and supported is totally lacking. The only “King’s” Court in the Republic is owned and operated by the actual “free, sovereign, and independent” people of the United States. Their Federal Courts operate within the Federal Postal Districts established on the land, and are not the “same as” United States “Federal” Courts established and operated within “U.S. Districts” established in the international jurisdiction of the sea. These Federal Postal District Courts owed to the people and the unincorporated States of America are not to be confused with any form of United States Court currently in operation, but again, NLA seems confused about jurisdiction and forms of law.
We, the people of the land jurisdiction of the United States, separated from the King (and the Queen) over 200 years ago, unlike the British-subject “inhabitants” who remained here to provide essential government services. As you can see from reading any version of the Constitution, the “federal government” under contract to provide nineteen essential services was NOT tasked with providing Common Law Courts and in fact there is no such thing as any General Common Law available to the federal government (Thompkins v. Erie Railroad). How then are the requirements of Amendment VII to be met?
Answer: we, the living people, acting in our actual and proper political status, are supposed to be self-governing and are supposed to operate our own Jural Societies and our own American Common Law Court System —- not “just” a Grand Jury, but the entire common law court we are owed—- Justices, Sheriffs, Bailiffs, Clerks, Trial Juries, Bondsmen, Coroner, etc.,
That this is not apparent to NLA and the NLA leadership is a cause of grave concern. I have yelped and tugged at pants legs to no avail. In order for the actions of the Common Law Grand Juries to have meaning and teeth these organizations must be properly formed and operated as a lynch pin standing between a fully operative American Common Law Court System and the present United States Court System— able to hand down presentments either to the land jurisdiction Common Law Courts or the sea jurisdiction United States Courts as the issues and subject matter may dictate.
Otherwise, people are left functioning improperly in a foreign jurisdiction, subject to criminal complaint, and all their hard work goes for naught. Their Grand Juries are at best well-intentioned but totally ineffective vestigal organs, like a tail bone long after the tail is gone.
It is a wrongdoing to maintain a sitting Grand Jury indefinitely. The entire NLA membership (5000+) is a sitting Grand Jury for the sole purpose of dealing with subversion against the United States of America, after which the Unified United States Common Law Grand Jury will disband. All other cases will be referred to the respective county jury pools once the subversion problem is resolved and administrations are properly established.
The idea of a gigantic single sitting “Grand Jury” throughout the country is novel, but unsupported by historical practice or definition; the Republic (unincorporated states on the land and living people) is organized according to townships, parishes, counties, and states— with Federal Postal District Courts operating on a regional basis—and The Supreme Court of the united States of America in Philadelphia— but in all the history and case law I have read in the past fifty years there is no precedent for a national Grand Jury. And if the county level Grand Juries are not properly seated and composed of people who have reclaimed and reconveyed their names and estates to the land jurisdiction and organized Jural Societies and taken their Jural Oaths—- then obviously, any state level Grand Juries are not validly composed, either, and neither would a national level Grand Jury resulting from a promulgation of smaller errors be valid. If you start out wrong, you end wrong, and the entire sand castle is apt to be swept out to sea.
NLA is building Administrations composed of 4 People per county to serve as an investigative body for the Grand Jury, provide orientation for jurist, provide jurist counseling when requested, provide written forms of the jury’s will, and provide grand jury access for the People of the county.
The above speaks to the problem — Common Law Grand Juries in this country arise from properly composed Jural Societies, not “Administrators” nor “Administrations” — that’s the language of the United States Court System operating in the international jurisdiction of the sea, not the American Common Law System owed to the living people and unincorporated states on the land. The whole idea that our justice system should rely on four self-appointed spies per county reporting back to a national webmaster is repugnant. The government of the land, the Republic, operates from the bottom up, not the top down, and it operates in the open, not as a secretive network of opinionated tattle-tales.
The so-called sequestration of the Grand Juries and the relative inability of the people to access the Common Law Grand Juries is part and parcel of the problem we are trying to address. My complaint is a picture perfect example. Millions of people around the world have now read our affidavit of probable cause. More than six months have gone by since its publication and the presentation of its information to the NLA sponsored Common Law Grand Juries. If anyone is interested in quelling “subversion” and bringing an end to crime, then our affidavit provides more than enough factual information to justify investigation and action against the banks, attorneys, and politicians responsible for the current conditions— but so far as I can tell, no action has been taken at all.
Nobody from NLA has called me. No Grand Jury has summoned me to ask questions about our affidavit or request additional witnesses or testimony.
Today we have National name recognition, 100’s of thousands of followers (established by google analytics) over 5,000 members, 1,393 County Organizers, 115 State Coordinators, 105 Federal District Leaders, 7 National Coordinators, 11 Committees, and membership is growing exponentially.
It doesn’t matter how many members, how much money and effort spent, or what kind of “name recognition” an organization has, if it is acting in error from the ground up, which NLA provably is. This could not be more plainly stated, demonstrated, or proven than by the lack of successful prosecutions. Our country is awash in criminal activity. If the Common Law Grand Juries were properly educated, organized, seated, and supported there should be thousands of cases in process and thousands of successful prosecutions. The total absence of prosecutions based on the Common Law Grand Juries and their efforts SHOULD be a clue to Mr. Daresh and everyone else.
Those who as Anna put it “waved good-bye” to NLA and joined her were former disgruntled members of NLA that were removed from our membership for being dishonorable and refused to repent.
Nobody “joined” me. I am not an organization. I am out here in Alaska doing the necessary groundwork to correct the political status of Americans who have been mischaracterized as Federal United States Citizens. That’s ground zero—- bringing back the Americans to their natural birthright status on American soil, forming Jural Societies and from Jural Societies forming the missing American Common Law Court System we are owed. This is just plain common sense once you grasp the situation and the history and the facts. It’s not an opinion. It’s not “my” way versus someone else’s way. And it is certainly NOT “dishonorable” or anything requiring “repentance”. All the repenting that needs to be done is on the part of banks, lawyers, and politicians who have acted as criminals on our shores.
I am not a BAR Attorney
Well, thank you, Mr. Daresh for finally, unequivocably clearing that up. You could have saved everyone a lot of ear-twisting if you had simply said so when asked the question some months ago.
Like many People on the internet I have a pseudonym. I first signed up on the internet through AOL in about 1992 and the first thing I was asked to do when I signed up in those days was to choose a “screen name”, I chose John Darash. John is my Christian name and Darash which is a Hebrew word from the Bible meaning “diligent seeker of truth”. So I have been known as John Darash for almost 20 years. When I started working in Liberty Groups my wife was concerned about using our family name because I have always been controversial and she was concerned about “crazies” and she felt our family would have some protection.
I have used a pen name based on my family name, “Anna von Reitz” for even longer, Mr. Daresh, so I would have understood this explanation and so would most people. Again, you could have cleared it up a long time ago.
NLA quoted Anna in a federal paper because she gave an accurate picture of the fiction and we thought she was a real judge. We could not find a Judge Anna Von Reitz in Alaska and about six month ago we discovered that she was a self-appointed, self-elected judge trying to pass off a shadow government as a de jure government.
The Republic owed the living people and the unincorporated States of America is anything BUT a “shadow” government. It is the government of the land jurisdiction of this country and your ignorance together with that of your followers does not render it invalid. I am indeed an actual judge, but I am not a member of the Bar and I am not a member of the foreign court system of the Federal United States. There is a profound difference between the “Alaska State Superior Court” which operates on the land jurisdiction of this country and the “State of Alaska Superior Court” which does not.
If you, Mr. Daresh, had ever sat down and read my sworn affidavit which was provided to you, you would know that: (1) no member of the Bar may serve in ANY Public Office of the Republic owing to self-evident Constitutional prohibitions against their participation in our government; (2) that almost all the courts presently in operation in this country are either private administrative tribunals of the federal corporation and its franchises or admiralty courts operating in international jurisdiction and that none of these courts operate under any form of American Common Law until and unless we invoke our own court of record and operate it ourselves; (3) I am an actual American Common Law Court Judge, aka, Justice, filling a vacated Public Office of the De Jure government owed to the living people and the unincorporated States of America, as an act of service to the people of Alaska and Americans at Large.
Again, if you had bothered to read my affidavit, you would not be making these ridiculous assumptions about me, my standing, or my actions.
No one in NLA’s leadership has made any vague insinuations about anyone, furthermore the founders of NLA and all National Leadership is available every Monday evening in an open forum for three hours where anyone can ask any questions concerning our plan and behavior.
Our papers that have been filed in all 94 Federal District courts define our work and our position concerning jurisdiction and Article III Courts.
Again, I am sorry to disabuse you, but Mr. Jolly did indeed make inexplicable insinuations about me to my face. He said, and I quote, “We know who you are and we are against you.”
Obviously, you DON’T know who I am or what I am doing, nor do you realize WHY I am doing what I am doing. If you did, you would not be making all these half-cocked statements and assumptions. I must assure you that I am not alone in my scholarship and findings and in fact, your organization is not the first nor the best-informed when it comes to the work at hand.
The Michigan General Jural Society formed over twenty years ago and organized the unincorporated State of Michigan and continues to properly operate the County and State Jural Societies to this day. Their members, unlike yours, have properly declared their political status and settled their counties on the land and taken their Jural Oaths.
If you were concerned about the Truth and the proper way to organize lawful county and state government operations for the de jure Republic, you could learn a lot from their past and ongoing efforts, but it is clear that you are close minded and not open to learning anything more or better than your own opinion.
What self-appointed Judge Anna Von Reitz, self-appointed Judge Bruce Doucette, self-appointed Judge Stephen Keno, self-appointed Judge Stephen Nalty, self-appointed Judge David Coffelt, Rodger Dowdell, Carl Swensson, Arnie Rosner, self-appointed Keith Post Master General, and self-appointed god graced Administrator Joaquin Folch, self-appointed marshals, governors, a president and other officers are creating is a quasi-shadow government that essentially advocates the overthrowing of the government.
What self-appointed comptroller John Daresh does not realize is that the people of this country actually are sovereign on the land—- NOT “sovereign citizens”—- that is an oxymoron, for one cannot act as a sovereign and a citizen at the same time nor in the same jurisdiction, but sovereign on the land jurisdiction of this country nonetheless.
The people you have named are all honorable and unselfish and well-educated and well-informed Americans who have stepped forward into the gap left when all Public Offices in this country were vacated and “released” to the United Nations, as officially declared and explained in the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act and the International Organizations Immunities Act
You and anyone else reading this may be certain that I and the others named are in fact Justices of the Common Law. If we were not, we would be arrested for impersonating Public Officials.
As I have explained to others and as I will explain to you, when you incorporate anything it is immediately removed from the jurisdiction of the land and out from under the Law of the Land, including The Constitution, and it is instead operating in the international jurisdiction of the sea and under the Law of the Sea.
That’s what happened when first the Federal Government began operating as a corporation — the District of Columbia Municipal Corporation to be exact— and later, all the State and County governments also incorporated in order to receive “federal revenue sharing”—– that is, kick backs from unlawful and immoral federal corporation racketeering.
Via the simple act of incorporating, all the Public Offices owed the people and the unincorporated States of America were transformed overnight into private corporate offices instead.
The Sheriff on the Land became a Sheriff on the Sea. Instead of being a peacekeeping officer obligated to enforce the Law of the Land and the Public Law known as the United States Statutes at Large, he became a “law enforcement officer” obligated to enforce corporate codes, regulations, and statutes instead.
This is just a small part of what you clearly don’t know, don’t understand, and aren’t willing to learn.
18 USC §2385 – Advocating overthrow of Government – Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof,
18 USC § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy – If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
Any “sedition” is on the part of those attempting to overthrow the lawful government of the people, for the people, and by the people. These “laws” that you are quoting, John, are Federal Code— not Public Law, and the Federal Codes are a mere reflection of the actual United States Statutes-at-Large which safeguard our government on the land and which obligate the service and performance of the governmental services corporations under the tri-lateral treaty, national trust indenture, and service contract established by the actual Constitution known as The Constitution for the united States of America.
That you would seemingly accuse me and these other honorable Justices of the Common Law of sedition while being ignorantly engaged in promoting fraud yourself and misleading others to take actions that they have not been properly prepared for is another example of wanton disregard for fact, history, and Law by the leadership of NLA.
We are here operating in the open, for all to see, clearly declaring our understanding of who we are and what our government is and in which jurisdicition we are operating, allowing no one to mistake our political status, our standing on the land, and our intention. NLA meanwhile is operating a secretive “shadow government” itself, composed of unknown “administrators” acting as spies in each county, reporting back to some “national” organization styling itself as a Grand Jury of the Whole for which there is absolutely no precedent or justification.
I leave people to draw their own conclusions.
As I said in the beginning of this paper “truth is sometimes brutal”. Because we are fully informed we are obligated to warn The People who do not understand that they are in danger. The forces driving the quasi-shadow government movement are Pied Pipers[7] who are either agent provocateurs[8] or just useful idiots[9] who speak of a new federation and writing another constitution and thereby are putting many good liberty minded People who are desperately seeking a solution to save America in jeopardy.
Truth is brutal, John, and the truth is that however well-intentioned you are, you are woefully misled and ignorant. You are in fact so far from being “fully informed” that you should just sit down in a corner and listen for several months to the people who ARE fully informed.
There is no “quasi-shadow” government— at least none that I am aware of. There is only our government which has been mis-administered for a very long time and which was left vacated when the various units of the state and county governments incorporated themselves as franchises of the federal corporation dba UNITED STATES, INC. and began operating in the foreign international jurisdiction of the sea.
That may be all well and good for a corporation whose only responsibility is to provide nineteen “governmental services”—- but it is not sufficient as the government owed to the living people and unincorporated States of America known as the Union.
Our Public Offices owed to the land jurisdiction of this country were vacated and we are now filling them. This is no act of “subversion”— this is an act of restoration, plainly justified before the Hague, the United Nations Security Council, and the World Court. If you don’t like it, John, that’s too bad. The rest of us are not bound by your ignorance or opinions.
Additionally, because these dishonorable People have tried to appear as NLA by using similar seals and calling themselves a common law grand jury in order to ride the coat tails of our success. This has placed NLA members in jeopardy of arrest, being wrongly identified by news reports and law enforcement as part of the quasi-shadow government movement. It is for that reason we will be filing an Information making it clear that we are not part of the Anna Von Reitz “New Federation”.
I have never announced, participated in, advocated, or established any new “Federation”. I have preserved the actual Constitution, which is an entirely different thing— and that action, John, is in fact my lawful duty. Yours, too, if you had sense enough to recognize it.
Nobody can complain that I have ever done anything but my duty — which includes reporting crime to the Common Law Grand Jury. I did my part, as required by Law, but you and your organization have not. That is pure, simple, and factual for everyone to see.
You assert that your organization is a “success” and that we are “riding on your coat-tails” somehow. You apparently think you have some thunder to steal, but I see no success in terms of performance in behalf of the people of this country. I see no successful prosecution of any of the ample crime in our midst as a result of your organization. I see no action taken to investigate the information contained in our sworn affidavit of probable cause.
And if anyone is riding on any coat-tails, the Michigan General Jural Society and its worthy and correct effort to secure the Public Offices and land jurisdiction owed to the Michigan State and its people pre-dates your organization by at least twenty years. Time for you and anyone who is serious about re-settling your counties and states on the land and enjoying the freedom and government you are owed, to pay attention to what the Michigan General Jural Society has already accomplished and start following their template for real, actual, secure, and uncontroversial success.
Obviously, the Michigan General Jural Society has been functioning unobstructed and openly and successfully for at least two decades and has not been subject to any threat of arrest or accusation of criminality and if the NLA is experiencing such problems those problems are caused by the ignorance of NLA leadership and lack of proper preparation, education, and support for the volunteers trying to organize a crucial — but far from only component—of the government they are owed.
To anyone who is sick and tired of the atmosphere of fear, incompetence, gossip and endless spinning of wheels offered by NLA and its leadership— that is, anyone who really wants to restore the Republic and the lawful government we are owed— I invite you to check out the Michigan General Jural Society and its proven and peaceful process to do exactly what needs to be done— not only in terms of being able to set up a properly seated Common Law Grand Jury, but being able to set up a properly founded Jural Society and County Assembly to support it.
Go to the website where the MGJS Handbook called “From De Facto to De Jure” should now be posted and available for download.
Forget about NLA and John Daresh. He obviously doesn’t know what he is doing, and that is indeed a danger to the membership.—————————————

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